Some guy named Trench Reynolds banned me from his website years ago. Some people just get very insecure when someone who writes complete sentences and uses punctuation openly disagrees with them.
I am of course...crushed by rejection.
Some guy named Trench Reynolds banned me from his website years ago. Some people just get very insecure when someone who writes complete sentences and uses punctuation openly disagrees with them.
I am of course...crushed by rejection.
Really, that got you banned? Why the hell is that, wasn't a bad comment or anything?
ReplyDeleteAlso, I remember reading a teacher tell someone you should never fight back under any circumstances and when asked, "what if a bully is on top of you and punching you," simply said, "then you should dodge the punches."
Groan....
The solution is either homeschooling or training the children physically and mentally to be able to use overwhelming violence and insults to take down the bullies that go after them. Bullies only stop picking on weak victims when they become strong defenders. It'd be nice if bystanders or teachers (HA!) would intervene, but that's unlikely to ever happen.
He and I e-mailed each other for a few months, debating the problem of bullying. I believe he considers me to be something of a bully and is probably angry about the fact that his Bullies2Buddies strategy failed miserably.
ReplyDeleteI suspect that's why I'm not allowed to post any more comments.
I'm sorry that you got banned, senor. But at least, I'm glad that you're back to seeing Izzy for his true colors. If you ask me,that guy's a social Darwinist. Three examples of proof are in these websites:
Delete1. http://able2know.org/topic/197975-3
2. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090409105130AAyCtYT
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aq4hUu_bpg
Do you remember that Ben Leichtling guy who I told you about? Well, you can see what he does to Izzy's method of dealing with bullies in this website:
http://www.bloggernews.net/121782
If you'd like to contact Ben (whom I think that you'd prefer to Izzy as I do), you can go here to this website of his and look for his contact information:
http://www.leichtlingassoc.com/
I also saw that you've taken after Ben in this blog:
http://fightforward.blogspot.com/2010/04/interesting-thinker-talks-about.html
Anyway, you take care now. I hope that you have a better life.
Or perhaps the website is just not working.
ReplyDeleteTrench has two main kinds of followers- yes-men, and useful idiots.
ReplyDeleteThe Yes-Men will parrot and agree with everything he says and fawn over him.
The useful idiots are people who will try to argue against him, in vain, and inevitably get "pwned." He likes to keep those types around. One time he cyber-stalked someone's username and uncovered knowledge about him he used to make fun of him. (guy was a bedwetter) Classy guy, that Trench.
People that win debates or are too effective against him, he outright bans. He also deletes posts (after said bannings) to make it look like he won a debate.
Another odd tactic is, when I was winning a debate and said I was saving the debate for later, every 2 weeks he'd pop back in with a witty retort, I'd demolish it, then he'd return. Eventually I forgot about it- and he returned and "won" the debate!
He is very sneaky and sheisty. You should consider it a badge of honor to be banned by Trench, the only people permitted in his presence are lousy debaters and agreeable yes-minions.
Gracias for seeing what a cowardly - or rather dastardly - jerk that idiote is. He thinks that he's better than everyone who isn't like him. But he's really an arrogant son of a bitch and a damn know-it-all. And I apply those same characteristics to Izzy. Hell, they're probably boyfriends in spirit.
DeleteI saw a five second clip of him on television making an unimportant comment about the Craigslist Killer. He looked like an aging hippie from Santa Cruz, California.
ReplyDeleteI suppose it's his right to ban whoever he wants from his website, but his behavior only adds to the anger and frustration of people like Kimveer Gill and ends up getting innocent people killed.
Haha! That is his berserk button, when people attack him for banning Kimveer Gill and then having him and his minions insult him on the front page instead of trying to reach out to him. You're practically guaranteed a banning and plenty of post deletions if you bring that up with his Highness.
ReplyDeleteTrench still says he did nothing wrong. He's very Type-A and egomaniacal. At this point I'd say the site is more about feeding his ego and need for attention than anything productive. He already proved, with Kimveer Gill, that nothing he says or does actually reaches out to the would-be-school-shooters he's so anxious to prevent. (and, as Kimveer showed, many would-be-shooters use his site as "shooter wanking material", and all he does is fuel their rage and anger at the world)
Do you really think that anyone could have reached out to Gill? He was obviously way too far gone to be saved by kind words.
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I couldn't agree more about Trench being egomaniacal. The guy has his head up his ass just as his suck-ups do with theirs. I'd like to see that son of a puta (which is Spanish for "bitch") try and use his tactics on bullied victims. They'd likely strike back at him for brainwashin' them.
DeleteAnd I apply the same principles - or rather characteristics - to la fracasada (which is Spanish for "the loser") who's known as Izzy as I do Trench. If you ask me, both of those hombres are guruminos (whcih is Spanish for "wimps") at corazon (which is Spanish for "heart").
I've forgotten who Trench blamed for Kimveer Gill's attack. If memory serves me, he usually blamed the killer's parents for failing to teach coping skills, but I may be thinking of someone else.
ReplyDeleteUsually he blames the shooters and their families and friends. He start hopping up and down like a lunatic if someone blames it on bullying. He never blames anything on anyone that may have bullied or ostracized a shooter.
ReplyDeleteUnsurprisingly, he's a big fan of DeAngelis and Dave Cullen, DCullen even thanked him on his blog after getting a rave review for his book. Since DC gives Columbine a free pass on bullying and attributes the shooting to personality disorders (Eric as a psychopath and Dylan as an emo follower "trying to fit in" by shooting people to please Eric) that made Trench real happy.
http://trenchreynolds.me/2013/05/21/no-drugs-found-in-adam-lanza-psychiatric-or-otherwise/
ReplyDeleteHe also has the attitude "if something happened for me, then it's right."
He was bullied but never retaliated, so can't understand why anybody would.
Anti-depressants worked miracles on him, so he thinks it's utter bullshit that they could work negatively on anyone.
His world view-point is very narrow, may I recommend doing some features on him like you did with Izzy?
Exactimente on thinking that Trench's world view-point is narrow. So is Izzy's. If you ask me, those guys are full of shit.
DeleteTrench is an overflowing cup, filled with the cream of human goodness.
ReplyDeleteI dimly remember that line from an old movie...it'll come to me later.
I'll do a Trench post in a few days.
Oh grande, now you think that Trench is a good guy?! Can you not see what deluded and hypocritical know-it-all he is?! He's just as bad as that estupido Izzy because he's a bully enabler, many of whom you criticized for good reason!
DeleteI'm not a big fan of Trench, but Kimveer's posts were inappropriate. He was posting about how kids who threaten to shoot up / bomb their schools are just "rebels" and pranksters. Kimveer made eight such posts before Trench banned him.
ReplyDeleteBill Dobsy
The proper and safe way to deal with such comments is to let them blow their wind, decompress, and then remind them that many of the victims of school shooters are kids who suffer at the hands of bullies just as he did. Create relationships that present a reasonable chance of saving someone's life.
ReplyDeleteWhat you don't do is belittle, humiliate, and pompously remind the guy that the only way to get attention is to detonate a bomb or spray bullets into crowded rooms.
If Trench really is an adult survivor of bullying, he knows this instinctively and consciously chose to antagonize Kimveer Gill instead of choosing to defuse him.
Trench believe that bullying builds character and is just a minor stage of life.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who doesn't build character from bullying is just an evil, fucking psychotic dipshit.
Trench is always right and anyone that disagrees with him is always wrong.
You're a total liar for believing that delusional Trench. Do you suck up to him like other people suck up to Izzy Kalman and other bullies? You're just as deluded as he and Izzy are.
DeleteIn case you haven't noticed, bullying is a form of evil that can last for along time. By allowing it to happen and siding with it, you're just as evil the bullies and bully enablers themselves.
What Trench and Izzy do is brainwash people into thinking like them and that everyone thinks differently are villains. Well, guess what? You and them are the villains, you self-righteous and hypocritical cunts!
If you think that bullying builds character, then how about I bully you for the rest of your life?
What bullying does is traumatize and corrupt people. Hell, it could cause people to become bullies themselves.
You, Trent, and Izzy are examples of these things that are wrong with this world: Rewarding bad people for terrorizing good people and punishing good people for defending themselves.
If you support bullying that much, then don't blame me if I beat the ever-lovin' shit outta you.
What a deluded and self-righteous liar that Trench is. If you think that he's always right and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong, then you're just as much of a fucked-up piece of shit as he and Izzy are for thinking that bullying builds character.
DeleteBullying never did anyone any bueno. All it does is traumatize and corrupt people.
If you ask me, Trench and Izzy seem to try to corrupt others by brainwashing them to think like them.
But if you suck up Trench, maybe you should try to experience being bullied like hell.
Trench feels threatened by criticism and bans people.
ReplyDeleteI crave criticism and can't seem to attract anyone willing to present any rational counter arguments.
What a baby he is.
DeleteIf he really is an adult survivor of bullying, he may consider himself to be superior to men like Adam Lanza and Eric Harris simply because he didn't turn into a murderer. Perhaps that's where he gets his sense of accomplishment.
ReplyDeleteBwahaha! I was just joking about Trench "always being right," basically parodying his mindless followers.
ReplyDeleteIn an extremely generous estimate, he is right 28% of the time. Realistically, perhaps 3-5% of the time.
Btw, you should read Marjorie Lindholm's book about Columbine. In it she, a popular cheerleader, defends the jocks from the "myth" that E/D got bullied, then justifies and rationalizes her refusal to defend Dylan despite seeing him get assaulted in the hallway. She really did live such a gilded existence at Columbine that it was utterly unfathomable why two of the peasants would ever choose to revolt.
You know que (what)? You could have just put that you were sarcastic 'cause there are people who neither understand nor like sarcasm. As for that bwahaha, I don't like that at all because it sounds like you have no respect for others. Hell, I got my hatred for that way of alughing from being bullied. And bullies are the main reason why I don't have much of un sentido del humor (a sense of humor) because they used and use the "It's a joke," excuse when antagonizing.
DeleteBut what's worse than using that excuse is when the one doing the claimed the joking says "Fuck them if they can't take a joke." If you ask me, that phrase is worse than childish because it sounds like the bully's forcing his or ehr victim to take a joke. Well, that's unacceptable because people only take jokes out of their own free will.
And my response to "Fuck them if they can't take a joke," is "Joder (Fuck) you if can't respect others for not taking a joke!"
On the mano (hand), I'm now and sort of amused that you mocked Trench's fanaticos (fanatics). They're such suck-ups that they probably (masturbar) to him.
Er, "There was bullying, nobody would deny that," is a line directly from the book. The jocks that she defends are the nice ones.
ReplyDeleteBill Dobsy
Sure, nobody but the principal himself.
DeleteAnd did anyone in that wonderful community utter a word of criticism about the bullies? Or did the community as a whole behave like fluffers, keeping the gridiron heroes hard between games?
ReplyDeleteI was merely addressing Anonymous' incorrect reading of the book. The section of the book that deals with jocks is pretty small and half-baked, but Anonymous really needs to read that section again.
ReplyDeleteBill Dobsy
I don't remember if she acknowledges bullying to much extent, but she heavily downplays it.
ReplyDeleteShe devotes a whole chapter to angrily condemning the media for "myths about bullying" and constantly portrays the jocks in a fawning, saint-like light.
Rocky Hoffschneider is never mentioned once in the book- and to her, Columbine was more incomprehensible to explain that time travel would have been.
"She devotes a whole chapter to angrily condemning the media for "myths about bullying" and constantly portrays the jocks in a fawning, saint-like light."
DeleteEr, no? That's totally not what she says at all. Either you didn't actually read the book or you're so clouded by hate that you wildly misinterpreted what she actually wrote.
-Bill Dobsy
Everything I can find online about the book suggests a real snoozefest.
ReplyDeleteThe book actually is quite fascinating- in addition to documenting the impact of PTSD on someone from a "perfect" background, it shows how utterly blind she was to the horrors of Columbine and how sheltered she was from the evils there because of her privileged background as a sexy, popular and desired cheerleader. She could not have been more different from E/D unless she was a space alien.
ReplyDeleteYou're coming up with some extremely contrived reasons to slam this girl. I wasn't popular in high school at all, but her assessment of high school is pretty similar to mine. Some jocks were bullies. Some jocks were not bullies.
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Concerning the jocks who do bully (as opposed to those who don't): When are jock bullies ever disciplined for bullying other students? What is the record of many coaches and principals?
DeleteI know some high-school football coaches oppose bullying, but I have difficulty believing that the majority of high-school football coaches in this country are morally opposed to any of their players bullying other students at their schools. Believe me, I'm sorry to say this; but if I said otherwise, I'd be pretending.
In my view, there are two reasons why many high-school coaches would not be (and are not) opposed to any of their players bullying other students:
(1) machismo. Many coaches seem to subscribe to the mentality of machismo, which does not view bullying as immoral but as a social good and also views nonathletic boys and men as being inferior (despite evidence to the contrary). You know, nonathletes are supposed to be unmanly. Yeah, sure!
(2) "winning at all costs" or "winning is everything." Most of these coaches are pressured to have a winning season. So, why should a player (especially one who is an asset to the team) be benched simply because he's a bully or has been suspected of committing rape? The rape victims should be blamed for what happened to them (deliberate sarcasm here, as should be obvious).
When I was in high school, neither the principals nor the coaches had any problem players bullying other students. Two childhood friends of mine who played football at another high school in the same district recently told me that most of their teammates had looked down on all the nonathletic guys at their school as supposedly being inferior. Why should I condone this attitude? It's plain bigotry.
There was a guy I had admired in junior high who attended a "rival" high school instead of the one to which I was assigned. He had been a nice guy in junior high; but when he made the football team in high school, he became arrogant and started bullying other kids. He even tormented a mentally retarded classmate, which has got to be the worse form of bullying I've ever heard! Now, what do you think were the social repercussions from his despicable conduct? If he had been a nonathlete, he would have been scorned, and rightly so. But because he was a football player, he was as popular as ever! No one cared what he had done (except for the victim's father, of course). The fans had no problem with him bullying a mentally retarded guy, which is the moral equivalent of a man bullying a five-year-old child.
Of course, we've seen what has happened in Steubenville. Despite the conviction, the rape victim has received death threats from sports fans.
Do sportswriters or sports columnists ever report on this moral rot? Are they willing to deal with it? Are you kidding me?!
No wonder I've never been a football fan! I'd think that decent football fans would want to have a clean football program, but no dice. All that matters is having a winning football team. Victims be damned!
.... what does this have to do with what I just posted?
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Bill Dobsy
Oddly enough, I was never bullied by jocks in high school.
DeleteQue suerte tienes (How lucky you are), Fowl Ideas.
DeleteIn my Bully Enablers post there is a group of individuals I labeled "Oblivians." For some people, high school is a wonderful experience full of fun times, good friends, admiring teachers, and so on. They are "oblivious" to what is really going on around them. I suspect she was one of these individuals.
ReplyDeleteI'm not attacking her, Bill- I don't think she was evil or malicious.
ReplyDeleteNow, was she as blind and dumb as the daughter of a Duke in France munching down cake and drinking wine while the peasants were revolting outside? Abso-freaking-lutely! Were there good Aristocrats in those position who didn't know any better? Of course!
Brooks Brown was knee-deep in the shit- that's why his book is so real and raw and captures the spirit of Columbine.
Her book is a gilded recollection of a girl treated like an angel from birth. She is utterly ignorant regarding Columbine and bullying and so obsessed with the notion of her and her cliques as saintly martyrs that she does not understand why Columbine happened. That's why Eric and Dylan are seen by her as like two inexplicable monsters who snapped for utterly no reason instead of broken young men driven insane by the endless stream of abuses Columbine and Littleton urinated upon them.
So in short, I do think she is a nice person with a good heart... just someone exceptionally ignorant about the real state of things. I do not hate her as person, but I find her ignorance beyond aggravating.
Dear God! It would have been nice if my school experiences were like a Disney movie but on the same hand, I appreciate that I understand the world better than all those damned fool "noblemen" and "noblewomen" out there!
The adjective "Oblivious" kind of sums it up nicely.
DeleteShe can recall specific instances of Dylan - a kid who she barely knew - being teased. She remembers feeling sorry for him. This doesn't sound like someone who was completely oblivious to what was going on.
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Bill Dobsy
Plus, I find it amusing that you're slamming this girl for being oblivious when Eric and Dylan were so hilariously awful in their judgement of their peers that they yelled, "This is for all the shit you've given us for the past four year!" to a room full of kids who had no idea who they were.
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Perhaps she was just one more individual who believes that cruelty is normal, acceptable, and in the long run, harmless.
ReplyDeleteDamn Bill, are you her dad?
ReplyDeleteShe briefly recalls Dylan being slammed by some bigger kid, and someone else throwing an empty coke can at his hand while he meandered by miserably.
She felt "sorry" for him but refused to lift a finger to help him or complain to his abusers.
She was another sycophant terrified of the effect on her "popularity" that sticking up for an "inferior kid" would have had on her. You're making her out to be some kind of Supergirl who tried to save Dylan when all she did was make herself feel better by secretly feeling sorry for Dylan briefly, then refusing to actually do jackshit about it.
"You're making her out to be some kind of Supergirl who tried to save Dylan."
ReplyDeleteShow me where I posted this.
I think your assessment of her is incredibly unfair. You're assuming that she was friends with or sucked up to kids like Rocky Hoffschneider. This is pure conjecture. Almost everything you're typing is conjecture.
- Bill Dobsy
Face it, Bill. She was a gutless, social climbing coward.
DeletePerhaps I'm being a bit harsh. I may be wrong, but she still doesn't impress me. Regardless of the motivation of the killers or what touched them off, there still was a serious problem of bullying at Columbine. Jock privilege clearly was a reality. The coaches ran the school; and athletes were protected from the consequences of dishonorable conduct, which seems to have been (and still is) a problem in many high schools that overemphasize sports.
DeleteHow many times am I going to have to type that she saw bullying going on at Columbine? The book is NOT about Eric and Dylan's lives.
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Bill Dobsy
Actually, I wasn't commenting on Eric and Dylan's lives, as I've indicated above. :) If you had read my post closely, you would have seen that I was making no connection between E/D and the bullying (although I must say I'm not a Columbine expert and have an open mind). ;) I even reconsidered my estimate of Marjorie LIndholm.
DeleteI was simply addressing a problem that was existing at Columbine at the time; namely, not disciplining athletes for misconduct -- a problem that probably still exists there today.
I think it's quite likely we agree with each other considerably more than we disagree, unless you're a mindless sports fan of the sort I alluded to earlier in my long post. Tell you what, Bill ... (Hey, I might be a "Bill," too! lol) this exchange has gotten to be boring. (Besides, I have a lot to do now away from the PC.) You may continue your exchange with Mr. Fowl Ideas (whose blog I still support and will continue to read in a few days). It's just become a bit boring for me right now. Adios!
Anyway, if you want to continue this discussion hop on over to the SCMRPG board.
ReplyDelete- Bill Dobsy